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What it is, my sister and my wife and about a hundred people have been seeing what they

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call UFOs at a place called Lake Martin.

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It's at Alexander City, Alabama.

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Okay.

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And who am I to, they gave me this number but they didn't tell me what it was for.

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Oh, this is the National UFO Reporting Center.

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Is this a government office?

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No, it's a private scientific agency.

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So it's not the new fund or whatever?

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No.

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Is it a branch of the government?

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No, it's private.

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It's private?

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Yes.

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Oh, but you can't tell me what the name of it is.

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It's the National UFO Reporting Center.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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Is this one of the numbers like Chuck Carter has on his program or anything like that?

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No, I've never heard of him but we cover all of North America.

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It's the Center for Reporting UFO Activity.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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In your opinion, what are these people seeing up here?

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I haven't seen anything that they say is roundish shape objects.

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I don't know.

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No one has called here about it.

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Oh, really?

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We haven't had any reports.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And where are y'all located?

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We're in Washington.

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Oh, in Washington, they say.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what they're seeing.

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That's, uh, Stanley Field said it could be airplanes flying over.

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Uh-huh.

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But I told my wife that I would call and try to find out, you know, see what it was.

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And, uh...

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Has your wife seen them?

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They claimed that they did.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, I didn't see anything.

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Uh-huh.

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And, uh, you know how women are.

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So I told her to take two hours to the go to bed, you know, but she about to, you know,

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aggravate the piss out of me.

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Anyway, they gave me this number to call.

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I didn't know what it was, and I've heard about this Chuck Carter.

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Man, I don't know who he is or what.

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Uh-huh.

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And I've been seeing this stuff on television, and they give me a number to call, and I thought

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maybe it was a number.

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But this is in...

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This is not a branch of the government.

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No, no.

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No, this is private.

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Private.

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Mm-hmm.

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But you are in Washington, D.C.

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No, we're in Seattle, Washington.

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Oh, and Seattle, Washington.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, I just...

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I didn't know...

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I didn't know if I would...

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I didn't know if I would...

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They talking to a government agency or not.

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No, we have nothing to do with the government.

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Yeah.

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But you have never received any reports from Alabama.

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No, we haven't heard anything.

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We heard a bit on the news the other day about something going on down there, but no one

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was called here.

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Okay, what did you hear about the coats being cut up?

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Right.

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How did you hear about the cattle being cut up?

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Yeah, it was on CNN.

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Okay, I saw the UFOs, if you're not a government agency.

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So, and about a hundred more people saw them up here.

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Is this something that's being seen high in the sky or fairly close?

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Very close.

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They're coming out of the water.

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You want to explain part of it to you?

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Sure.

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And you're sure you're not a government agency?

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No, we have nothing to do with the government.

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Okay.

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Seattle, Washington.

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Do you have anything to do with Chuck Carter?

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No, I've never heard of him.

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Yeah, they got an answer on New Fond Agency.

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Have you ever heard of them?

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Yes, we've heard of them.

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How do you stand with those people?

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Oh, they're pretty much down to earth.

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Yeah, do y'all have any scientists up there?

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No, we don't have scientists here at this organization, but the move on does.

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Yeah, I done talked to two quantum physicists.

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And I think they're going to try to register the energy level up there.

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What do you think about the cattle mutilations and the goat mutilations and all that stuff?

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Well, of course, the cattle mutilation or animal mutilations have been going on for decades.

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Yeah, for thousands of years.

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Yeah.

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And you have no opinion whatsoever on UFOs in Miami?

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No, just that they obviously exist or so many people wouldn't be seeing them around the world.

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Yeah, do y'all do an investigation work on their own?

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It depends on the nature of the cases, but for the best ones investigations are conducted, yes.

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Well, I don't know what it is, but I saw hundreds of people up there at that lake saw it.

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And they have a power generator.

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It was the largest man-made lake in the world that built one.

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And what it is, it's mostly a retirement place, you know, Lake Holmes.

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Yes.

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And it used to produce 90% of the electricity that powered Atlanta, Georgia.

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That's how much electricity is up there and these objects get close to that generator, you know, the dam that generates the power.

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Yes.

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Okay, this lake is at some points three or four hundred feet deep.

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They claim that these things have come out of the water and I did see one.

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And there's hundreds of people up there that have seen one.

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But, you know, I don't know what to do about it, I'm trying to lock everybody else.

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I don't know what they are, you know.

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What was the name of that lake?

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Lake Martin.

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You need to name a city that is close to it.

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Yes.

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Alexandria City.

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It's in Alabama.

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Okay.

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And the name of the lake is Lake Martin.

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Okay.

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It was built and it was finished in 1932.

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It's got 750 miles of shoreline.

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Now does this activity all seem to be concentrated around that lake?

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Yes, sir.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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And it's getting more and more and more.

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I don't know why.

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You know, like I said, I don't know anything about UFO.

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Uh-huh.

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It's just, but there's hundreds of people, they call them to a radio station down here

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in Montgomery, Alabama.

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And we've ordered it.

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And, you know, they don't know what to do about it either.

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You know, I don't know what to do about it.

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And I don't know what they're doing at that lake, you know?

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Yes.

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The only thing I do know is about the lake that it's one of the largest electrical,

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generating power plants in the world.

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You know, it turns out a lot of electricity.

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So I don't know if that would happen as I can do with the UFOs or I don't know.

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Okay.

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Why don't you leave your name and phone number if we get any more information on what's happening.

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We'll get back to you.

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Well, I don't know.

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I don't know if I want to.

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I don't like other people.

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I don't know if I want to get involved.

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You know, I've heard about people going to jail over this kind of stuff, you know?

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And I don't know if I want to go to jail.

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I heard on the radio people get locked up, maybe like hells, you know?

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And I think maybe that's why people don't report, so you know.

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Uh-huh.

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Well, we sure appreciate the call anyway.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And nobody else has called, huh?

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No.

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Okay.

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Well, I sure do appreciate talking to you.

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Should I call you back, or anything?

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Anytime you want.

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Sure.

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If you hear of anything important, we'd like to know about it.

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You know, if I just knew that you weren't part of the government and I wouldn't go to jail,

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you know, I might give you my name and phone number, you know?

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Well, we're not part of the government.

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I'll guarantee you that.

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We have nothing to do with them.

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Yeah.

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If I can get some pictures of these things, should I send them to you?

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Yes.

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Definitely.

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Okay.

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We went out and bought a camcorder today.

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And, uh, is it true that people have went to jail and all this kind of stuff?

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I report in UFOs.

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I've never heard of that.

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You know, I've been in this since 1955, and I've never heard of anything like that.

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Oh, you have?

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Yes.

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Well, I've got a...

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Well, I just watch this television and people on television.

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I believe it was a program on the fighting.

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And on the program fighting, they said that they had been interrogated by the army and

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everything else, you know?

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You know, up until 1969, the government was very much involved, but they got out of it

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in 69, and I don't know whether they're involved anymore or not.

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I don't think so.

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I've never heard of any involvement since then.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, like I said, I did hear about the goat mutilations that happened this week,

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and the cattle mutilation was about two weeks ago, you know?

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And the UFOs hang around up there regularly, and I've talked to people that have...

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I went out and talked to other people, and they have been seeing them up there for 50

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Oh, my gosh.

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And what happened, I bought a house up there, you know, a retirement home.

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Retired police officer, you know?

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And I bought a retirement home, and I didn't know all this crap.

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I might just, you know, sell it.

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Uh-huh.

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I don't know if I want to be up there.

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You know, they say they...what is it?

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They abduct people and all that kind of stuff.

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But if I should get some pictures of it, where should I send them to?

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Well, just give us a call, and then we'll give you an address.

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Okay.

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Well, I should have thanked you.

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Okay, and we appreciate your calling.

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Bye.